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avatar#6959 (20 posts)  7/13/2013 7:47 AM

Any plans to dive into Football season?  Love the tool for basketball and baseball thus far.  Football is a bit simpler but values can change depending on ppr, td values, size of rosters etc.


Sorry for placing it here not sure where to ask

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avatarkslight (1487 posts)  7/13/2013 10:18 AM

We're currently concentrating on baseball and basketball, but we'll think more about football before the season.  There won't be any projections before the season, but we'll likely do something each week helping users pick their lineups.


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avatarandrewfr (33 posts)  7/14/2013 9:30 PM

I was looking for football monster earlier this week...seems a lot easier to put together than baseball or b-ball, but would be a good tool to have...would def. be interested.

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avatarpuntfreethrows (28 posts)  7/16/2013 5:40 PM

I was thinking about this post and went to check on the FootballMonster& BasketballMonster websites when I came across the RotoMonster link...


I'm definitely drafting this Oscar Robertson cat next year!

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avatarshoemosher (19 posts)  8/6/2013 11:38 AM

Is there such a thing? I see a 'test' site from last season. If you guys aren't doing a football site, are you aware of any loosely similar sites doing what you do for baseball/basketball, but in football? Thanks.

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avatarmbuser (772 posts)  8/6/2013 11:48 AM

Football doesn't lend itself as well to our particular brand of analysis as the other sports. But of course there are a zillion sites to go to for projections and rankings.

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avatardescender (122 posts)  8/6/2013 1:58 PM

If this is not OK to post here then you can totally delete it and I apologize.  Since you guys don't seem to have much interest in football, I thought I might help out some of our fellow Monster members :)

To fulfill my monsterless football drafting needs, I use the "Draft Predictor" software from FantasySharks.  It's pretty intense, predicting players for 2 full rounds ahead of your pick to watch for drop-offs in positions.  Here is a writeup on their projection system PAVT.

During the season, I use the composite rankings on  A purely "wisdom of the crowds" approach, they collect and average weekly rankings for each position from 50+ football "experts".  


Both of these tools have brought me great success in some very competitive leagues.

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avatarandrewfr (33 posts)  8/7/2013 7:29 PM

Agreed with fantasy pros site descender, it really takes most of the bias and favoritism that some experts show for certain players... and if their is an expert u dont care for you can remove their opinion from the rankings which is useful.

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avatarmbuser (772 posts)  8/7/2013 7:31 PM

Thanks for sharing, we certainly don't mind. I'm sure we'll eventually look to expand our football offerings, it just won't be this season.

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avatarliam4 (252 posts)  8/8/2013 6:31 PM

I know all the focus will go into basketballmonster, but man, I could use some help figuring out how to draft in my two QB, non-standard scoring league.  I can wait til next year but one vote for footballmonster!

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avatarkenjlev18baseball (33 posts)  8/11/2013 3:23 PM

Has anyone used this site? I've read some good reviews of it.

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avatarSo-Tex (7 posts)  8/19/2013 7:50 AM

Has anyone used this site? I've read some good reviews of it.

I'm actually more into basketball (of all things, coming onto a baseball forum, discussing football, but playing mostly basketball... say what? )...but I have used this site a few times. One thing I did do, and I couldn't even remember how I did it cause it's been several years now, was to sign up for their email newsletter. I still get it to this day. It's not spam, nor is it chock full of a bunch of ads for other stuff (if anything, you might see ONE ad, once in a while, for their own tourneys and contests). Their daily emails give you some pretty good info, including their own takes on football news. And they'll even send out "hand's on" corrections from time to time...meaning, there seems to actually be someone writing this stuff instead of just news gleamed from some other site.

I don't know if anyone else has ever had a bad experience with them, but I sure haven't. Good stuff, quite honestly. thumbs up

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avatarfffu_zipper_kitty (30 posts)  8/20/2013 4:40 PM

I call bogus on that site. It said my team has a 91-99% of making the playoffs.

Considering only 40% of teams make the playoffs, that seems insane.


Just entered my other team and it said 94-99% of making the playoffs.


Yep, this football guys is BS!!!!

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avatarmbuser (772 posts)  8/21/2013 12:19 AM

So you are saying that there's no way that you drafted that well? big smile

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avatardescender (122 posts)  8/21/2013 11:34 AM

Or everyone else drafted that poorly? :p

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avatarnathan_oake (10 posts)  8/21/2013 2:27 PM

Ive been looking all summer for football guya too- i hope we see it next year. Re Football Guys: Haha- that's funny. I love but it doesn't do quite what baseball and basketball monster do. You're speaking of the free "rate my team" section, which is just clearly an auto summary of the guys on your team That their writers like, then some sort of ranking. It also says "with great management ...x% chance to make playoffs, with average management y% chance to make playoffs , etc. meaning you clearly need to watch the waiver wire and stay active Footballguys does have a draft app which I've found interesting- called the FBG Draft GM. You can place your league specifics (IE some of mine are unique such as 2QB, PPR, etc ) then pick your draft spot if you know it and run a customized mock draft based on your format. Minimally- FBG gives you the daily email summary which is helpful if you're not glued to Rotowire, and they have some good articles from a slew of different writers. Ok- enough on that... I'm wondering if anyone has used I heard a Sirius-XM interview and it sounded a lot like what Matt and Ken do here. The guy is supposedly a financial guy in former life and sounded like it was all numbers and regression analysis based. Anyone ever try them?

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avatarfffu_zipper_kitty (30 posts)  8/21/2013 9:17 PM

It said with average management 94% chance & with good management 99%.


Regardless of how you draft, you shouldn't have a 90%+ of making the playoffs.


And my teams are far from perfect.


Even if you get the top player at every position 90% is still insanity (for football).

Injuries happen, plus there breakout players & duds every year.

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avatardescender (122 posts)  8/24/2013 11:37 AM

I actually use that footballguys website for their schedule making tool.  Yahoo is terrible at balancing schedules.


Never signed up or looked at their rankings though.

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avatarRapierman (64 posts)  8/25/2013 7:16 PM

Buser:  What about league setups (like we're doing now with our normal guys from your previous site)?

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avatarmbuser (772 posts)  8/26/2013 12:20 AM

A few football leagues were organized on the hoops side, but there wasn't a tremendous demand.

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avatarliam4 (252 posts)  8/29/2013 9:36 PM

Matt and Ken -- I went about taking football projections from fantasypros (four selected sources) and computed z-scores.  With regards to the z-scores, what number of players would you suggest using -- in a 10 team league with two QB's, would you use the top 20 QB's to set the average and STDEV?  The top 30?

Also, we're running an auction draft.  I've previously used the auction draft suggested $ values from basketballmonster.  Any suggestion as to how to calculate those myself using my z-scores?

Lastly, I need to figure out how to compare positional value... but I suppose I'll need to figure that out on the fly.

Happy to share my excel if anyone wants it.  Points in my league are based on custom settings, but that can easily be adjusted.

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avatarkslight (1487 posts)  8/30/2013 7:10 AM

If you're using 20 active QBs, I would use that group to calculate your STDEV.  For the auction values, once you've calculated your STDEV, find the lowest of that group, and subtract that value from all players (this makes the worst QB a 0.00).  Then total all of the player's new values.  Then figure out the % each player takes of that total. Then determine the total $ you're committing to QBs and use the % to figure out their estimated cost. Hopefully that helps.

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avatarkenjlev18baseball (33 posts)  9/1/2013 12:23 PM

Decided to use Ken and Matt, the technology you offer to integrate your software with Yahoo, so you don't need to set Pre-Draft Player Rankings is so superb! I've spent hours on this today. PLEASE give us Football Monster next year!  yes

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avatarliam4 (252 posts)  9/7/2013 7:16 AM

Thanks ken, appreciate it.  The ranking strategy worked amazingly well, great draft.  If only I knew Peyton was going to throw 7 td's a game...

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avatarkenjlev18baseball (33 posts)  9/11/2013 10:57 PM

Now using Much happier with it, due to Yahoo integration.

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avatardrw3722 (16 posts)  9/17/2013 3:53 PM

Please please please do a fantasy hockey monster there is nothing out there for projections for hockey. I would love to help you get it off the ground if you're interested I played hockey my whole life and love the nhl.

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avatarmbuser (772 posts)  9/17/2013 8:23 PM

Hockey is definitely under-served, no question. I believe we'd also have Hockey Monster in an ideal world, but we may still be a ways away from that ideal big smile And we'd also have to negotiate with whoever currently owns the domain...

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avatardrw3722 (16 posts)  9/18/2013 1:20 PM

I have emailed the domain owner and have made them aware that I'm ready to negotiate. It looks like its a used hockey equipment web site with minimal traffic. I checked godaddy and the current bid for the domain is $15,600 with zero bids and 6 views.

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