How do we feel about Billy Hamilton?

ksimon89  5/23/2014 1:51 PM

See my team analysis below.

I was offered:

Billy Hamilton, Joe Nathan, Jason Vargas, and Wily Peralta

for

Mike Napoli, Brett Gardner, Kole Calhoun, and Josh Beckett.

I'm ok in steals but could use a closer. Not sure if I'd keep or drop Vargas and Peralta, they're pretty much throw ins.

12 Teams | 13 Hitters Per Team $200 Per Team [5 Active = HR RBI SB R BA] | 10 Pitchers Per Team $60 Per Team [5 Active = W SV ERA WHIP SO]

Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	BAV
1	1	2.25	Cabrera, Miguel		DET	1B/3B	114		426	78	136	89	60	73	0.319	28	2	2.93	3.64	-0.73	2.68	2.71
1	2	2.04	Trout, Mike		LAA	OF	111		415	84	129	68	74	104	0.311	20	23	1.44	1.77	1.61	3.25	2.15
2	23	0.59	Holliday, Matt		STL	OF	101		381	60	114	57	51	67	0.298	15	4	0.50	0.81	-0.55	0.92	1.25
3	31	0.50	Hosmer, Eric		KC	1B	110		424	54	126	63	36	67	0.298	11	6	-0.30	1.33	-0.25	0.35	1.39
3	36	0.42	Hunter, Torii		DET	OF	101		413	56	123	58	19	77	0.297	12	3	-0.06	0.92	-0.61	0.54	1.30
4	42	0.34	Victorino, Shane		BOS	OF	95		393	58	110	49	27	58	0.280	11	17	-0.36	0.05	0.93	0.80	0.25
5	58	0.06	Calhoun, Kole		LAA	OF	97		404	67	107	42	40	83	0.264	13	7	0.11	-0.58	-0.14	1.61	-0.68
5	59	0.05	Napoli, Mike		BOS	1B	99		349	52	90	56	54	118	0.257	18	1	1.09	0.72	-0.84	0.24	-0.95
7	73	-0.08	Ramirez, Alexei		CHW	SS	111		375	40	111	48	16	40	0.296	6	16	-1.26	-0.02	0.75	-0.98	1.12
8	87	-0.20	Hill, Aaron		ARI	2B	96		348	42	96	52	27	53	0.277	12	4	-0.16	0.36	-0.49	-0.80	0.07
9	105	-0.33	Gardner, Brett		NYY	OF	107		345	40	96	39	36	78	0.278	5	22	-1.47	-0.82	1.45	-0.94	0.12
17	194	-1.00	Pierzynski, A.J.		BOS	C	81		299	33	79	35	10	47	0.265	8	0	-0.79	-1.20	-0.91	-1.65	-0.46
Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	BAV
		4.64	Avg Stats/Total Values				1224		4,571	662	1,316	656	449	864	0.288	160	107	1.66	6.99	0.22	6.03	8.27
		4.23	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				1031		3,774	537	1,100	566	382	724	0.291	136	82	1.92	7.51	-0.57	3.61	8.70

Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV
1	12	0.63	Price, David		TB	SP	22		152.9	142	58	53	36	140	14	3.14	10	0	1.16	0.84	-0.57	0.96	0.74	1.18
2	21	0.43	Hamels, Cole		PHI	SP	23		148.7	143	58	53	36	139	16	3.23	10	0	1.20	0.83	-0.57	0.61	0.09	1.17
2	23	0.40	Zimmermann, Jordan		WAS	SP	23		145.2	143	57	52	30	117	13	3.22	11	0	1.19	1.07	-0.57	0.61	0.31	0.56
3	28	0.24	Minor, Mike		ATL	SP	22		139.6	129	59	54	36	122	15	3.47	10	0	1.18	0.94	-0.57	-0.27	0.37	0.71
3	29	0.23	Ryu, Hyun-Jin		LAD	SP	22		139.3	131	56	51	37	113	12	3.30	10	0	1.21	0.95	-0.57	0.32	-0.02	0.46
3	34	0.17	Perkins, Glen		MIN	RP	44		44.0	33	14	13	11	52	4	2.64	3	23	1.01	-1.58	1.89	0.81	0.98	-1.24
3	35	0.16	Latos, Mat		CIN	SP	20		132.6	119	55	50	38	118	13	3.41	9	0	1.19	0.53	-0.57	-0.05	0.26	0.60
4	42	0.08	Cishek, Steve		MIA	RP	46		46.2	36	15	14	16	50	3	2.66	3	23	1.12	-1.51	1.89	0.83	0.45	-1.28
5	55	-0.03	Roark, Tanner		WAS	SP/RP	22		108.2	97	45	41	28	83	10	3.42	8	0	1.16	0.28	-0.57	-0.07	0.58	-0.37
6	68	-0.17	Kuroda, Hiroki		NYY	SP	23		144.2	146	63	58	32	110	16	3.64	9	0	1.24	0.66	-0.57	-0.85	-0.48	0.37
17	204	-0.75	Hughes, Phil		MIN	SP	22		126.4	132	62	57	35	105	18	4.03	8	0	1.32	0.16	-0.57	-1.98	-1.59	0.24
18	210	-0.76	Beckett, Josh		LAD	SP	12		71.8	69	34	31	23	62	9	3.91	5	0	1.28	-0.77	-0.57	-0.91	-0.58	-0.96
Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV
		0.62	Avg Stats/Total Values				301		1,399.1	1,321	573	528	359	1,212	142	3.39	95	46	1.20	2.41	-1.88	0.02	1.12	1.45
		1.01	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				214		892.3	843	354	326	222	783	86	3.29	60	46	1.19	0.50	0.38	2.38	1.50	0.27

jyang61107  5/23/2014 2:01 PM

I'm glad that someone actually offer you a trade to benefit you too.

This trade is good in a swap of M. Napoli and B. Gardner for B. Hamilton and J. Nathan. You already have E. Hosmer so giving up 1 of your first basemen is good and picking up the best base stealer in the league is great and you get a closer so good job.  

ksimon89  5/23/2014 2:07 PM

This site loves Kole Calhoun though. And is Hamilton really any more valuable than Gardner? Gardner is ranked 46 on the season and 9 in the last month on Yahoo.

ken_admin  5/23/2014 2:16 PM

Gardner and Hamilton are pretty close in value so if you remove the throw-ins, it's Napoli and Calhoun for Nathan. Is that the decision, or do you think the other players offer value?

ksimon89  5/23/2014 2:22 PM

No I'd agree those are the throw-ins. I'm trying to decide if I'd actually rather Hamilton over Gardner, and if I can get him to swap Peralta & Vargas for Dallas Keuchel or Kyle Lohse. If he values Hamilton more than Gardner then it might be worth it for me to remove them and try to get more from him.

jyang61107  5/23/2014 11:01 PM

In my league no one will trade their closer unless they are getting a ranked 50 and above player.  Do you really need the closer and miss out on the bats or vice versa?

HK-47  5/24/2014 4:47 PM

Honestly, I think Billy Hamilton is pretty bad. I mean it's steals, and nothing else. He literally HAS to steal 100 bases to make up for how terrible he is everywhere else ( even then he isn't worth it imo). He won't steal 100 because you cannot steal first base, and his slash line in AAA last year should have been a good indicator of how he would struggle to contribute at the major league level. But, I loathe players like him...you have to make up so much elsewhere with a guy like him on your team. I don't see him holding much more value, if any, over Gardner. Also, I really like Calhoun...he can do a bit of everything. I suppose if you really need a closer go for it...but I would hold and or try to work something else out.

ksimon89  5/24/2014 6:21 PM

Thanks guys, I ended up negotiating and got him to accept Calhoun and Beckett for Nathan.