Selling High on Jordan Zimmerman?

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avatarunbigote (125 posts)  5/23/2013 6:25 PM

There seems to be a consensus (amongst fantasy baseball bloggers at least) that Zimmerman is due for a correction at some point. I am curious about what folks on here think. Would you sell high on him? And if so, what return would you look for? This team is a 12 team keeper league (6 keepers), but I took him too high for him to equate into my team next year.

12 Teams | 12 Hitters Per Team [5 Active = HR RBI SB R BA] | 7 Pitchers Per Team [5 Active = W SV ERA WHIP SO]

  Own Round Rank Value PosV ValueC Name Injury Team Pos g News AB R H RBI BB K BA HR SB HRV RBIV SBV RV BAV
    1 6 1.00 0.00   Votto, Joey   CIN 1B 106   373 74 120 67 79 80 0.322 18 4 0.56 1.01 -0.69 1.74 2.36
    1 11 0.82 0.00   Beltre, Adrian   TEX 3B 104   398 59 119 83 25 47 0.300 23 1 1.48 2.23 -1.09 0.31 1.15
    2 13 0.76 0.00   Harper, Bryce   WAS OF 109 5/22/2013 7:07 PM  Manager Davey Johnson said trainers came to him after the 9th inning and said Harper's knee was swelling. Harper said he could stay in. 415 67 116 67 48 93 0.280 23 12 1.48 1.07 0.27 1.06 -0.09
    2 17 0.66 0.00   Pedroia, Dustin   BOS 2B 103   396 66 121 64 44 45 0.306 11 14 -0.50 0.79 0.50 0.98 1.52
    4 38 0.27 0.00   Aoki, Norichika   MIL OF 104   444 68 129 40 35 38 0.290 8 24 -0.97 -1.00 1.59 1.17 0.59
    4 47 0.18 0.00   Segura, Jean   MIL SS 110   449 67 127 44 38 68 0.282 7 23 -1.17 -0.68 1.55 1.14 0.04
    5 56 0.07 0.00   Mauer, Joe   MIN C/1B 104   398 66 126 46 57 66 0.315 6 3 -1.30 -0.59 -0.82 0.98 2.09
    6 62 0.05 0.00   Cuddyer, Michael COL 1B/OF 103   373 52 105 62 35 72 0.281 16 7 0.35 0.67 -0.36 -0.39 -0.03
    6 67 -0.02 0.00   Carpenter, Matt   STL 1B/2B/3B/OF 107   444 75 128 43 52 87 0.288 10 2 -0.71 -0.79 -0.89 1.85 0.45
    7 74 -0.07 0.00   Werth, Jayson WAS OF 101   396 64 107 45 50 89 0.270 14 11 -0.02 -0.64 0.17 0.82 -0.71
    9 107 -0.39 0.00   LaRoche, Adam   WAS 1B 104   367 50 95 55 37 92 0.260 19 1 0.80 0.16 -1.09 -0.61 -1.23
    12 140 -0.68 0.00   Myers, Wil TB OF 95   340 45 88 47 33 93 0.259 14 4 -0.06 -0.48 -0.64 -1.02 -1.20
    15 170 -0.94 0.00   Dirks, Andy   DET OF 77   280 34 80 42 19 48 0.286 7 3 -1.06 -0.90 -0.82 -2.09 0.20
  Own Round Rank Value PosV ValueC Name Injury Team Pos g News AB R H RBI BB K BA HR SB HRV RBIV SBV RV BAV
          1.70 0.00 0.00 Avg Stats/Total Values       1327   5,074 786 1,461 705 552 919 0.288 175 109 -1.13 0.84 -2.32 5.93 5.16
          1.77 0.00 0.00 Avg Stats/Total Values (active)       1225   4,677 722 1,354 660 502 830 0.289 161 98 -1.11 1.48 -2.50 5.12 5.87
  Own Round Rank Value PosV ValueC Name Injury Team Pos g News IP H RA ER BB SO HR ERA W SV WHIP WV SVV ERAV WHIPV SOV
    1 6 0.87 0.00   Kimbrel, Craig   ATL RP 48   48.4 31 9 8 13 81 3 1.55 3 29 0.93 -1.45 1.95 2.35 2.00 -0.51
    1 7 0.72 0.00   Strasburg, Stephen   WAS SP 22   136.9 120 52 48 40 152 14 3.13 11 0 1.16 0.84 -0.64 1.13 1.07 1.23
    1 12 0.45 0.00   Scherzer, Max   DET SP 23   142.3 127 59 55 43 161 17 3.45 11 0 1.20 1.07 -0.64 0.02 0.33 1.46
    2 20 0.22 0.00   Zimmermann, Jordan   WAS SP 22   134.7 128 55 50 31 108 11 3.37 10 0 1.19 0.74 -0.64 0.29 0.58 0.15
    2 24 0.16 0.00   Medlen, Kris   ATL SP/RP 21   128.1 123 53 49 30 104 11 3.42 10 0 1.19 0.79 -0.64 0.11 0.49 0.05
    3 28 0.10 0.00   Lynn, Lance   STL SP/RP 21   128.3 113 52 48 47 133 11 3.38 10 0 1.25 0.73 -0.64 0.26 -0.61 0.76
    3 34 -0.05 0.00   Rivera, Mariano   NYY RP 41   41.3 37 14 13 9 39 3 2.85 2 24 1.11 -1.51 1.50 0.63 0.65 -1.53
    4 44 -0.14 0.00   Cobb, Alex   TB SP 19 5/23/2013 12:21 AM  Alex Cobb will pitch on regular rest, and thus he will get the start Sunday versus the Yankees instead of Jake Odorizzi. 118.7 111 49 46 36 99 9 3.45 9 0 1.24 0.31 -0.64 0.00 -0.30 -0.07
    6 72 -0.34 0.00   Kennedy, Ian   ARI SP 22   144.3 140 67 61 42 127 17 3.83 10 0 1.26 0.63 -0.64 -1.38 -0.92 0.61
    9 102 -0.45 0.00   Veras, Jose   HOU RP 36   35.7 30 15 13 16 41 3 3.40 2 20 1.30 -1.58 1.19 0.05 -0.41 -1.49
    17 202 -0.83 0.00   Gausman, Kevin   BAL SP 11 5/22/2013 10:07 PM  Manager Buck Showalter confirmed that Kevin Gausman would be called up to start Thursday's game against the Blue Jays. 60.3 59 29 26 19 52 7 3.95 4 0 1.29 -0.91 -0.64 -0.76 -0.62 -1.23
    21 246 -0.95 0.00   Pineda, Michael NYY SP 11   65.9 65 33 31 22 62 10 4.20 4 0 1.32 -0.95 -0.64 -1.25 -0.96 -0.96
  Own Round Rank Value PosV ValueC Name Injury Team Pos g News IP H RA ER BB SO HR ERA W SV WHIP WV SVV ERAV WHIPV SOV
          -0.24 0.00 0.00 Avg Stats/Total Values       297   1,184.9 1,085 487 448 348 1,158 117 3.41 87 73 1.21 -1.29 -1.16 1.46 1.29 -1.52
          -0.50 0.00 0.00 Avg Stats/Total Values (active)       201   591.1 536 242 223 178 599 60 3.39 42 73 1.21 -3.44 2.06 0.92 0.73 -2.75

 


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avatarmbuser (772 posts)  5/23/2013 8:26 PM

Obviously his Bob Gibson-like 1.62 ERA, 0.87 WHIP won't last. But Zimmerman is a very good pitcher with a very good track record, so the vague "selling high" scenario shouldn't mean shipping him out for whatever is offered. What is working against Zimmerman, however, is his middling K/9, which means the ratios have to be abslutely stellar for him to keep elite status.


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avatarunbigote (125 posts)  5/23/2013 9:35 PM

I was too vague in my original query. I suppose I was curious if you/anyone thought it would be worth dangling him out there for a top 30 hitter. There are quite a few Nats fans in the league and a number of teams in need of pitching, so I was considering capitalizing on that. I like Zimmerman, and having seen him pitch a number of times I don't quite understand why he has such low strike out totals. His fastball velocity is great (not Strasburg great, but a mid-90s fastball ain't bad) and his other offerings have looked solid too.


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avatarunbigote (125 posts)  5/23/2013 10:56 PM

Just an update. I can get David Wright for Zimmerman and Veras. Should I go for it?


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avatarmbuser (772 posts)  5/24/2013 12:50 AM

He's always been more of a pitch-to-contact type, and so far this season his GB% is up and his HR/FB is down, which means killer ratios. Not much has changed about his pitch types, but everyone is hitting it into the dirt, at his fielders (49% GB, .235 BABIP). Look at his opponent numbers so far, they are ridiculous (from ESPN):

I'm a bit surprised that you need to include Veras. I'd certainly do the 1-for-1, maybe counter back with that first?


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avatarunbigote (125 posts)  5/24/2013 10:39 AM

Wow. Those stats are impressive... I ended up countering as you suggested, but recieved a better (though bigger) offer from another leaguemate. I'm not sure how I managed this -- my only explanation is that the guy is a huge nats fan and is in last place in the league -- but I was offered McCutchen/Weaver for Zimmerman/Kennedy/Veras/Aoki. I'm fond of Zim and Aoki, but I figured the offer was too good to pass up.

No one involved really has much value beyond this year, at least for me. Veras was a last rounder so he could conceivably be a cheap source of saves next year and Aoki was a middle of the draft guy, but neither factored into my six keepers as I saw it. I would have loved to have gone one-for-one with McCutchen and Zimmerman, but really didn't want to have the deal fall apart in negotiations. Of course, feel free to point out anything I might have overlooked in this deal (there is always the chance it will be vetoed).


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avatarmbuser (772 posts)  5/24/2013 10:54 AM

Love it. That's how you sell high.


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