Another self-centered Trout scenario

unbigote  6/5/2013 10:47 AM

I've been negotiating for Trout (rd 18) in my 12 team keeper league (5x5 H2H). I had convinced myself it was worth parting with Harper (rd 18) + McCutchen (rd 1) for Trout and Hamilton (rd 1). When Harper hit the DL, that deal hit the skids. The other owner now wants Votto (rd 1) in place of McCutchen. This seems like too much to me (though so did the original scenario). I could ask for Posey in place of Hamilton, though I don't know if he would bite. (For what its worth the trade analysis tool seems to like this better).

The other team also has Puig and Profar that I could ask for, but I doubt he would be willing to part with two excellent keepers and I also don't want to go into rebuilding mode.

I'd like to keep my balance this year as I'm sitting in first place, but would love to add Trout to my team. If I parted with Votto I would consider trading my Strasburg (rd 19) for another teams Allen Craig (rd 23) to fill my void at first base.

Recap: as it stands the offer is Hamilton/Trout for Votto/Harper. (Neither Hamilton or Votto are worth keeping next year under my league's rules). 

12 Teams | 12 Hitters Per Team [5 Active = HR RBI SB R BA] | 7 Pitchers Per Team [5 Active = W SV ERA WHIP SO]

	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	BAV
		1	7	1.04	0.00		Votto, Joey		CIN	1B	95		334	66	108	60	71	72	0.322	16	4	0.60	1.12	-0.65	1.76	2.38
		1	10	0.94	0.00		Beltre, Adrian		TEX	3B	95		363	54	109	75	23	43	0.300	21	0	1.62	2.42	-1.07	0.50	1.21
		1	12	0.80	0.00		McCutchen, Andrew		PIT	OF	99		370	57	109	55	44	70	0.296	17	14	0.80	0.61	0.77	0.83	0.98
		2	15	0.69	0.00		Pedroia, Dustin		BOS	2B	92		354	59	108	57	39	41	0.306	10	13	-0.49	0.80	0.57	1.01	1.55
		2	23	0.57	0.00		Harper, Bryce		WAS	OF	90		338	56	96	56	44	71	0.283	20	7	1.41	0.72	-0.16	0.72	0.14
		4	46	0.21	0.00		Segura, Jean		MIL	SS	99		402	60	113	40	34	61	0.282	6	21	-1.18	-0.64	1.66	1.13	0.09
		5	52	0.15	0.00		Mauer, Joe		MIN	C/1B	93		357	58	113	46	51	59	0.315	5	3	-1.31	-0.16	-0.78	0.91	2.11
		5	57	0.09	0.00		Cuddyer, Michael		COL	1B/OF	92		333	46	94	56	31	64	0.281	15	6	0.38	0.71	-0.32	-0.37	0.02
		5	59	0.05	0.00		Werth, Jayson		WAS	OF	97		383	60	103	43	43	77	0.270	13	9	0.18	-0.40	0.06	1.09	-0.70
		6	61	0.04	0.00		Carpenter, Matt		STL	1B/2B/3B/OF	97		401	67	116	39	47	78	0.288	9	2	-0.69	-0.75	-0.86	1.97	0.51
		9	98	-0.34	0.00		LaRoche, Adam		WAS	1B	94		331	44	86	51	34	83	0.260	17	1	0.87	0.28	-1.06	-0.58	-1.18
		13	147	-0.74	0.00		Myers, Wil		TB	OF	83		295	39	76	39	28	81	0.259	12	4	-0.11	-0.72	-0.61	-1.15	-1.10
		16	183	-1.05	0.00		Franklin, Nick		SEA	SS	88		322	39	82	30	28	66	0.254	7	8	-1.08	-1.52	-0.02	-1.13	-1.48
	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	BAV
				2.44	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values				1212		4,583	706	1,313	646	517	866	0.286	167	91	1.00	2.47	-2.46	6.69	4.52
				3.14	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				1032		3,906	607	1,133	564	446	709	0.290	142	79	0.93	3.58	-1.91	6.75	6.32

	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV
		1	7	0.81	0.00		Kimbrel, Craig		ATL	RP	43		43.4	28	8	7	12	72	3	1.55	2	26	0.93	-1.45	2.11	2.13	1.76	-0.51
		1	8	0.62	0.00		Scherzer, Max		DET	SP	21		136.1	120	54	50	42	154	15	3.30	10	0	1.19	1.14	-0.63	0.47	0.47	1.66
		1	9	0.61	0.00		Strasburg, Stephen		WAS	SP	20		121.8	107	46	42	35	129	11	3.10	9	0	1.17	0.83	-0.63	1.08	0.77	0.98
		2	22	0.15	0.00		Lynn, Lance		STL	SP/RP	19		116.1	102	46	43	43	120	10	3.30	9	0	1.24	0.77	-0.63	0.41	-0.54	0.75
		3	36	-0.02	0.00		Weaver, Jered		LAA	SP	20		136.3	132	60	55	33	111	14	3.62	9	0	1.22	0.78	-0.63	-0.65	-0.10	0.50
		4	39	-0.06	0.00		Cobb, Alex		TB	SP	19		122.6	117	53	48	33	104	12	3.55	9	0	1.22	0.54	-0.63	-0.35	-0.16	0.32
		4	41	-0.06	0.00		Rivera, Mariano		NYY	RP	37		36.7	32	13	12	8	35	2	2.85	2	21	1.11	-1.52	1.62	0.56	0.54	-1.50
		5	53	-0.20	0.00		Medlen, Kris		ATL	SP/RP	19		121.7	118	54	50	32	99	12	3.66	9	0	1.24	0.62	-0.63	-0.72	-0.48	0.19
		9	97	-0.48	0.00		Pestano, Vinnie		CLE	RP	41		41.3	36	16	15	14	46	4	3.23	3	3	1.21	-1.16	-0.29	0.23	0.02	-1.19
		15	173	-0.71	0.00		Pineda, Michael		NYY	SP	13		80.6	77	38	35	28	76	10	3.94	6	0	1.30	-0.40	-0.63	-1.06	-1.04	-0.41
		18	208	-0.81	0.00		Gausman, Kevin		BAL	SP	10		54.0	53	26	24	17	46	6	3.95	4	0	1.29	-0.91	-0.63	-0.72	-0.61	-1.20
		18	216	-0.82	0.00		Wacha, Michael		STL	SP	13		75.4	75	36	33	25	57	8	3.98	6	0	1.32	-0.30	-0.63	-1.06	-1.20	-0.91
	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV
				-0.97	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values				276		1,085.9	997	449	413	322	1,048	106	3.43	79	50	1.21	-1.05	-2.21	0.31	-0.57	-1.31
				-0.13	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				185		508.6	450	199	183	153	539	49	3.23	37	50	1.19	-3.37	0.93	2.69	1.76	-2.67

mbuser   6/5/2013 12:18 PM

Instead of settling for "I don't know if.." and "I doubt he..." go find out for sure from the other guy Votto + Harper is massive, he had better be willing to negotiate.

unbigote  6/5/2013 12:54 PM

Haha. I agree he should be willing to negotiate. Basically, I can't decide what to counter with and want to find a sweet spot to compromise on. I'd like to make the deal and do not want to scare the other guy off; however, I'd like to squeeze him for all I can. If I give up Votto/Harper who do you think I should ask for in addition to Trout?

mbuser   6/5/2013 1:08 PM

Asking for Posey is completely reasonable to me, and that helps with the gap at 1B, as well. The worst-case (hopefully) is that he counters with that compromise you are comfortable with.