Keeper league trade to win now, need advice.

unbigote  6/21/2013 11:41 AM

I'm a game out of first half way through the season, a team near the bottom proposed this trade to me. I'm essentially giving up a really good keeper for two amazing rentals. I'm not sure if I should take it, what do you guys think? Its obviously too early for this to guarantee anything, but I think it would make me the team to beat. That said I'd be giving up one of the better keepers in our league.

The trade - MY Cuddyer (17), Lynn (11) and Strasburg (19) for Kershaw (1), Longoria (2), Jansen (13) ... considering countering by switching Medlen in for Lynn

This is the third year of a 12 team league.

MY TEAM (Players go up 2 rounds each year, undrafted players count are 23rd round picks the following year)

C Mauer (4)
1B Votto (1)
2B Pedroia (3)
SS Segura (UD)
3B Beltre (2)
IF LaRoche (11)
OF Carpenter (UD)
OF McCutchen (1)
OF Cuddyer (17)
OF W. Myers (22)
Utl Werth (14)
Utl Franlkin (UD)
Bn: Yelich (UD)
DL: Harper (18)

SP Weaver (3); Strasburg (19); Medlen (21); Scherzer (4); Lynn (11); Cobb (16); Kluber (UD)
RP Rivera (7); Kimbrel (9); Pestano (UD)
DL Pineda (UD); Beachy (UD)

12 Teams | 12 Hitters Per Team [5 Active = HR RBI SB R BA] | 7 Pitchers Per Team [5 Active = W SV ERA WHIP SO]

	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	BAV
		1	7	1.01	0.00		Votto, Joey		CIN	1B	81		285	56	92	51	60	61	0.322	13	3	0.65	1.03	-0.66	1.61	2.40
		1	11	0.89	0.00		Beltre, Adrian		TEX	3B	80		305	46	92	64	19	36	0.300	18	0	1.59	2.34	-1.05	0.39	1.18
		2	13	0.81	0.00		McCutchen, Andrew		PIT	OF	85		320	49	95	47	38	61	0.296	15	12	0.88	0.67	0.72	0.82	0.97
		2	17	0.67	0.00		Pedroia, Dustin		BOS	2B	78		303	50	93	48	34	35	0.306	8	11	-0.41	0.80	0.50	0.93	1.55
		2	23	0.55	0.00		Harper, Bryce		WAS	OF	76		286	48	81	49	37	60	0.283	17	6	1.41	0.82	-0.20	0.62	0.10
		4	46	0.22	0.00		Segura, Jean		MIL	SS	86		348	52	98	35	29	53	0.282	5	18	-1.07	-0.55	1.57	1.11	0.05
		5	52	0.15	0.00		Carpenter, Matt		STL	1B/2B/3B/OF	83		345	59	103	33	40	50	0.298	7	1	-0.76	-0.73	-0.89	1.97	1.19
		5	53	0.15	0.00		Mauer, Joe		MIN	C/1B	81		309	51	97	37	44	51	0.315	5	2	-1.21	-0.39	-0.78	0.97	2.16
		5	58	0.08	0.00		Cuddyer, Michael		COL	1B/OF	78		286	39	80	48	27	55	0.281	12	5	0.45	0.70	-0.34	-0.40	-0.02
		8	95	-0.29	0.00		LaRoche, Adam		WAS	1B	81		283	40	73	43	32	74	0.260	14	1	0.87	0.20	-0.98	-0.30	-1.25
		9	102	-0.39	0.00		Werth, Jayson		WAS	OF	84		288	38	76	38	32	64	0.265	10	7	-0.08	-0.28	-0.07	-0.53	-0.97
		12	136	-0.64	0.00		Myers, Wil		TB	OF	79		264	34	68	35	25	72	0.259	11	3	0.06	-0.50	-0.60	-0.95	-1.22
		14	163	-0.79	0.00		Franklin, Nick		SEA	2B/SS	75		293	39	75	27	29	61	0.258	6	8	-0.90	-1.34	0.12	-0.40	-1.41
	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	BAV
				2.43	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values				1047		3,915	600	1,124	555	448	734	0.287	141	80	1.46	2.77	-2.65	5.85	4.72
				1.88	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				971		3,629	552	1,043	506	411	674	0.287	124	73	0.06	1.95	-2.45	5.23	4.63

	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV
		1	7	0.94	0.00		Scherzer, Max		DET	SP	18		122.0	105	46	42	36	140	12	3.10	9	0	1.16	1.27	-0.65	1.17	1.02	1.91
		1	8	0.79	0.00		Kimbrel, Craig		ATL	RP	37		37.1	24	7	6	10	62	2	1.55	2	22	0.93	-1.39	1.94	2.14	1.74	-0.47
		1	9	0.71	0.00		Strasburg, Stephen		WAS	SP	18		111.3	98	42	38	32	117	10	3.10	9	0	1.17	1.10	-0.65	1.09	0.76	1.23
		2	23	0.14	0.00		Lynn, Lance		STL	SP/RP	16		99.5	87	40	37	36	103	8	3.30	8	0	1.24	0.81	-0.65	0.34	-0.60	0.78
		3	34	-0.04	0.00		Weaver, Jered		LAA	SP	18		117.6	114	51	47	29	95	12	3.62	8	0	1.22	0.83	-0.65	-0.75	-0.17	0.55
		4	39	-0.06	0.00		Rivera, Mariano		NYY	RP	32		31.8	28	11	10	7	30	2	2.85	2	18	1.11	-1.45	1.50	0.55	0.53	-1.45
		5	49	-0.17	0.00		Cobb, Alex		TB	SP	15		95.2	91	41	38	25	80	9	3.55	7	0	1.22	0.33	-0.65	-0.40	-0.20	0.09
		5	56	-0.23	0.00		Medlen, Kris		ATL	SP/RP	16		104.0	101	46	42	28	84	10	3.66	7	0	1.24	0.64	-0.65	-0.81	-0.53	0.22
		7	78	-0.39	0.00		Kluber, Corey		CLE	SP	15		89.4	87	42	38	24	84	12	3.85	6	0	1.24	0.19	-0.65	-1.22	-0.46	0.22
		7	81	-0.39	0.00		Beachy, Brandon		ATL	SP	14		84.6	78	37	34	31	83	9	3.66	6	0	1.29	0.27	-0.65	-0.65	-1.11	0.17
		8	94	-0.46	0.00		Pestano, Vinnie		CLE	RP	36		36.5	31	14	13	13	41	3	3.23	3	3	1.21	-1.08	-0.31	0.21	0.00	-1.12
		12	143	-0.66	0.00		Pineda, Michael		NYY	SP	13		80.6	77	38	35	28	76	10	3.94	6	0	1.30	-0.04	-0.65	-1.32	-1.26	-0.04
	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV
				0.18	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values				249		1,009.6	921	415	382	299	996	100	3.40	73	44	1.21	1.46	-2.74	0.36	-0.28	2.08
				0.73	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				171		520.4	464	205	189	154	544	51	3.27	38	44	1.19	-1.02	0.52	2.39	1.70	0.08

mbuser   6/21/2013 12:51 PM

So, assuming you end up with three (1) players, you just don't pick for the first three rounds? In general, I'm all for securing talent right now to compete for this title. Too often in keeper leagues, people get attached to age and round discounts for the future and end up ensuring that they don't compete in the present.

unbigote  6/21/2013 1:43 PM

Unfortunately I'd only get to hang on to a single first round pick (per the league rules).

This past year I did not keep anyone in the first round becasue my high draft position allowed me to redraft my first round pick anyway (Votto).

I've tried to move Strasburg for a bat with long term keeper value, but haven't had any luck. I do like Strasburg, but the small injuries that seem to keep popping up have me a bit nervous.

HK-47  6/21/2013 3:28 PM

I would go for it...winning a title now is more important than what may happen next year, or the next. As was stated, some in a keeper tend to forget the win now mentality, and get too caught up in what may be 2-3 years down the road. I do of ocurse understand your delimma and or hesitation...but go for the title man. I fear if you don't, and come up slightly short, you may wonder what could have been.

mbuser   6/21/2013 6:52 PM

I traded for David Wright and R.A. Dickey for the stretch run in my roto keeper last season, knowing at the time that I couldn't keep them for this season (expiring 3-year limits). I won my league. Of course, I'm not doing particularly well this season, but you can never take the W away from me

unbigote  6/22/2013 1:42 PM

The only reason I'm in position to make an impact this year is due to two miserable seasons before this; partly due to injuries (Joey Votto anyone) and partly due to poor decision making.

Unfortunately, my greed -- trying to put Medlen in for Lynn -- seems to have scuppered this deal.

I'm considering making a Strasburg + someone expendable offer for a rental of Cargo (rd. 1) and Cliff Lee (rd. 2). The team that owns 'em is probably too far behind to even grab a playoff spot and will likely be amenable to rebuilding even though there is still a lot of (fantasy) baseball left.