Trade Sabathia for Matt Cain???

puntfreethrows  5/7/2013 7:35 PM

How much would you give up for Matt Cain right now?

I've been offered my Shelby Miller & Sabathia for his Cain and Alex Cobb (or Jamie Garcia)

That seems like too much for me too give up, so I'm trying to counter with EITHER Shelby or CC for Cain. Thoughts???

10 Teams | 10 Hitters Per Team [6 Active = HR RBI SB R BA OPS] | 8 Pitchers Per Team [6 Active = W SV ERA WHIP SO QS]

	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	OPS	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	BAV	OPSV
		1	4	1.28	0.00		Fielder, Prince		DET	1B	131		465	80	142	99	77	71	0.305	27	1	0.958	1.51	2.45	-1.12	1.31	1.33	2.18
		2	11	0.69	0.00		Beltre, Adrian		TEX	3B	117		451	67	135	94	29	54	0.300	26	1	0.882	1.36	2.07	-1.13	-0.02	0.99	0.85
		2	15	0.56	0.00		Stanton, Giancarlo		MIA	OF	107		394	69	110	70	53	125	0.278	30	5	0.952	2.01	0.37	-0.66	0.21	-0.32	1.75
		2	17	0.52	0.00		Gordon, Alex		KC	OF	130		528	86	158	65	61	115	0.300	16	12	0.858	-0.38	-0.01	0.04	1.81	1.15	0.53
		3	27	0.30	0.00		Rios, Alex		CHW	OF	127		508	66	146	81	24	76	0.287	19	19	0.808	0.24	1.15	0.73	-0.11	0.21	-0.44
		5	41	-0.04	0.00		Ortiz, David		BOS	1B	93		331	59	97	65	51	57	0.292	19	0	0.926	0.19	-0.01	-1.14	-0.78	0.36	1.15
		6	51	-0.18	0.00		Konerko, Paul		CHW	1B	119		418	62	119	63	48	64	0.285	21	1	0.841	0.44	-0.13	-1.12	-0.50	0.06	0.15
		6	59	-0.25	0.00		Werth, Jayson		WAS	OF	121		471	76	127	53	59	106	0.270	17	14	0.797	-0.22	-0.83	0.21	0.86	-0.90	-0.58
		7	62	-0.29	0.00		Napoli, Mike		BOS	C/1B	98		340	57	90	60	49	100	0.265	23	1	0.888	0.84	-0.35	-1.07	-0.95	-0.88	0.70
		9	85	-0.48	0.00		Reynolds, Mark		CLE	1B/3B	124		400	62	96	62	58	134	0.240	26	2	0.830	1.22	-0.20	-0.99	-0.47	-2.41	-0.01
		10	93	-0.58	0.00		Rutledge, Josh		COL	2B/SS	111		444	58	122	58	23	89	0.275	13	12	0.775	-0.72	-0.52	0.07	-0.86	-0.55	-0.93
		12	113	-0.70	0.00		Teixeira, Mark		NYY	1B	96		351	55	88	55	43	64	0.250	21	1	0.824	0.45	-0.72	-1.04	-1.18	-1.63	-0.10
		13	128	-0.83	0.00		McLouth, Nate		BAL	OF	98		374	58	98	39	53	75	0.262	11	19	0.776	-1.15	-1.83	0.74	-0.86	-1.13	-0.76
		14	135	-0.88	0.00		Weeks, Rickie		MIL	2B	119		399	56	101	51	47	103	0.252	15	11	0.771	-0.48	-1.01	-0.07	-1.08	-1.75	-0.88
	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	OPS	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	BAV	OPSV
				-0.73	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values				1590		5,873	913	1,628	916	674	1,231	0.277	284	98	0.852	5.31	0.44	-6.56	-2.64	-5.48	4.56
				-0.14	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				1147		4,239	650	1,184	674	471	872	0.279	196	77	0.853	2.64	1.75	-3.95	-2.02	-2.67	3.44

	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	QS	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV	QSV
		1	4	1.00	0.00		Hernandez, Felix		SEA	SP	26		182.6	162	66	61	48	174	13	3.00	12	0	1.15	18	0.63	-0.44	2.00	1.65	1.27	0.90
		2	14	0.49	0.00		Sabathia, C.C.		NYY	SP	25		179.7	169	75	69	44	166	19	3.47	12	0	1.19	16	0.65	-0.44	0.25	0.84	1.03	0.58
		2	16	0.42	0.00		Fister, Doug		DET	SP	26		173.7	169	73	67	37	133	15	3.46	13	0	1.18	17	0.94	-0.44	0.26	0.89	0.16	0.69
		2	18	0.35	0.00		Gonzalez, Gio		WAS	SP	26		165.9	144	66	61	66	168	12	3.30	12	0	1.27	17	0.69	-0.44	0.79	-0.77	1.09	0.75
		3	30	-0.01	0.00		Miller, Shelby		STL	SP/RP	22		136.4	123	57	52	50	135	12	3.46	11	0	1.27	14	0.29	-0.44	0.21	-0.57	0.21	0.22
		5	45	-0.19	0.00		Bailey, Homer		CIN	SP	24		158.4	158	74	68	40	130	19	3.88	11	0	1.25	14	0.42	-0.44	-1.10	-0.34	0.08	0.26
		9	84	-0.51	0.00		Masterson, Justin		CLE	SP	27		164.2	159	78	71	62	124	14	3.91	11	0	1.35	16	0.39	-0.44	-1.26	-2.18	-0.08	0.49
		9	88	-0.53	0.00		Street, Huston		SD	RP	48		48.2	43	18	16	11	52	5	3.03	3	28	1.12	0	-2.18	2.08	0.50	0.60	-2.01	-2.19
		10	94	-0.58	0.00		Janssen, Casey		TOR	RP	48		47.6	42	17	16	11	48	4	3.01	3	25	1.11	0	-2.16	1.82	0.51	0.62	-2.11	-2.19
		12	119	-0.77	0.00		Tazawa, Junichi		BOS	RP	47		47.0	41	16	15	9	47	4	2.82	4	5	1.08	0	-1.79	0.05	0.69	0.78	-2.14	-2.19
		14	134	-0.82	0.00		League, Brandon		LAD	RP	54		52.4	47	21	19	20	42	2	3.26	4	22	1.28	0	-1.97	1.56	0.30	-0.33	-2.27	-2.19
		19	185	-0.99	0.00		Veras, Jose		HOU	RP	42		37.4	31	16	14	20	46	3	3.49	3	17	1.34	0	-2.25	1.11	0.04	-0.49	-2.17	-2.19
		20	192	-1.03	0.00		Bailey, Andrew		BOS	RP	46		41.5	38	18	17	16	39	4	3.66	3	15	1.31	0	-2.05	0.90	-0.11	-0.36	-2.36	-2.19
	Own	Round	Rank	Value	PosV	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	QS	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV	QSV
				-3.18	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values				461		1,435.0	1,326	595	547	434	1,304	126	3.43	100	112	1.23	112	-8.40	4.46	3.08	0.35	-9.29	-9.26
				-2.13	0.00	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				295		829.5	767	342	314	244	755	74	3.41	60	80	1.22	62	-5.77	3.76	2.15	0.89	-6.98	-6.85

Rapierman   5/8/2013 12:37 AM

You were right to recognize that you would give up a little too much.  BSM Trade Analyzer showed that you would have lost a little bit.  The big hit was in the strikeout totals.

To that end, if you're dead set on getting Cain, then I would say that Sabathia might not be enough to get him to bite, but it's worth a shot. You may also want to consider adding one of your extra 1Bs.  Konerko looks like a good shot, so if Sabathia doesn't end up being enough, you could throw him in as well.

puntfreethrows  5/8/2013 1:23 PM

Thanks man, very solid advice. I offered CC straight up for Cain and he accepted. I'm loaded at 1B so I was prepared to throw in Konerko, but it wasn't necessary. Here's hoping Cain outperforms him the rest of the way...