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oscarsf 3/19/2014 7:15 PM

If you are still using saves as your primary statistical measurement of relievers, it's time to consider a change.

16 Teams | 13 Hitters Per Team [7 Active = HR RBI R K GDP NETSB OBP] | 13 Pitchers Per Team [6 Active = IP ERA WHIP K/9 QS NS+H]

Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	GDP	NETSB	OBP	HRV	RBIV	RV	KV	GDPV	NETSBV	OBPV
1	16	0.61	Braun, Ryan		MIL	OF	151		570	88	168	88	61	122	0.295	28	13	10	0.369	1.49	1.40	1.18	-0.77	-0.90	0.41	1.45
2	24	0.45	Ortiz, David		BOS	1B	130		464	77	135	88	69	85	0.290	24	14	1	0.383	0.90	1.42	0.64	0.35	-1.12	-0.78	1.73
2	26	0.44	Stanton, Giancarlo		MIA	OF	143		517	83	138	82	75	161	0.267	35	9	2	0.366	2.29	1.11	0.94	-1.93	0.13	-0.64	1.16
3	33	0.37	Crisp, Coco		OAK	OF	130		537	77	139	55	55	75	0.259	15	7	21	0.329	-0.17	-0.29	0.63	0.67	0.51	1.70	-0.47
3	37	0.34	Pujols, Albert		LAA	1B	139		539	79	149	97	53	68	0.277	27	19	2	0.347	1.37	1.85	0.75	0.88	-2.25	-0.57	0.36
4	58	0.14	Utley, Chase		PHI	2B	130		490	64	128	59	50	78	0.262	17	9	8	0.344	0.13	-0.10	-0.04	0.56	0.12	0.07	0.21
4	59	0.12	Ramirez, Aramis		MIL	3B	130		479	62	131	72	43	78	0.274	20	10	1	0.345	0.51	0.58	-0.17	0.58	-0.21	-0.69	0.23
7	98	-0.05	Miller, Brad		SEA	2B/SS	143		422	52	115	51	38	85	0.272	11	3	5	0.334	-0.57	-0.48	-0.67	0.35	1.43	-0.26	-0.19
7	105	-0.09	Willingham, Josh		MIN	OF	138		482	68	112	67	71	140	0.233	23	11	1	0.347	0.87	0.33	0.16	-1.31	-0.28	-0.72	0.31
7	108	-0.12	Davis, Rajai		DET	OF	91		322	31	83	36	19	65	0.259	5	6	29	0.309	-1.35	-1.27	-1.75	0.96	0.65	2.75	-0.82
11	165	-0.30	Jaso, John		OAK	C	89		273	36	69	30	43	49	0.253	6	5	2	0.360	-1.22	-1.55	-1.50	1.43	0.87	-0.62	0.50
16	254	-0.48	Sizemore, Grady		BOS	OF	65		237	27	58	30	19	65	0.246	8	3	1	0.313	-1.02	-1.56	-1.96	0.96	1.51	-0.76	-0.52
20	308	-0.55	Castillo, Welington		CHC	C	105		337	37	86	40	31	88	0.256	11	9	1	0.332	-0.64	-1.04	-1.44	0.26	-0.01	-0.80	-0.21
Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	GDP	NETSB	OBP	HRV	RBIV	RV	KV	GDPV	NETSBV	OBPV
		0.89	Avg Stats/Total Values				1584		5,671	782	1,513	795	627	1,160	0.267	231	120	84	0.347	2.60	0.40	-3.22	2.99	0.46	-0.91	3.90

Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	WHIP	K/9	QS	NS+H	IPV	ERAV	WHIPV	K/9V	QSV	NS+HV
1	5	1.29	Lee, Cliff		PHI	SP	31		218.1	200	83	76	36	207	23	3.15	1.08	8.6	21	0	1.60	2.14	3.06	0.42	1.42	-0.92
2	27	0.39	Gonzalez, Gio		WAS	SP	32		198.8	174	83	76	77	197	17	3.46	1.27	8.9	21	0	1.29	0.65	-0.89	0.83	1.37	-0.92
2	29	0.38	Nathan, Joe		DET	RP	69		66.6	53	26	24	21	72	6	3.21	1.11	9.7	0	32	-0.79	0.57	0.74	0.62	-0.92	2.07
3	33	0.33	Benoit, Joaquin		SD	RP	67		65.3	50	24	22	21	74	6	3.00	1.08	10.2	0	22	-0.81	0.86	0.92	0.82	-0.92	1.13
3	41	0.30	Miller, Shelby		STL	SP	30		179.5	160	77	71	62	176	18	3.56	1.24	8.8	19	0	0.99	0.18	-0.29	0.64	1.17	-0.92
4	58	0.12	Tazawa, Junichi		BOS	RP	66		66.4	63	26	24	14	66	7	3.19	1.16	8.9	0	22	-0.79	0.59	0.44	0.28	-0.92	1.14
5	73	0.05	Doolittle, Sean		OAK	RP	60		59.9	49	22	20	15	55	4	3.06	1.07	8.2	0	15	-0.90	0.71	0.93	-0.02	-0.92	0.50
5	78	0.03	Brothers, Rex		COL	RP	70		66.3	54	28	25	35	77	5	3.46	1.35	10.4	0	27	-0.80	0.22	-0.86	0.92	-0.92	1.59
7	105	-0.10	Wilson, Brian		LAD	RP	58		55.4	48	21	20	23	54	3	3.19	1.28	8.8	0	19	-0.97	0.50	-0.31	0.20	-0.92	0.86
9	141	-0.26	Gausman, Kevin		BAL	SP/RP	15		89.8	84	41	38	26	84	11	3.80	1.22	8.4	9	0	-0.43	-0.36	0.00	0.09	0.08	-0.92
14	210	-0.43	Syndergaard, Noah		NYM	SP	11		62.0	57	29	27	22	58	7	3.86	1.28	8.4	6	0	-0.86	-0.33	-0.35	0.06	-0.21	-0.92
21	324	-0.63	Morton, Charlie		PIT	SP	27		158.5	158	73	67	51	109	13	3.82	1.32	6.2	16	0	0.66	-0.69	-1.59	-2.09	0.85	-0.92
26	402	-0.79	Kelly, Joe		STL	SP/RP	22		127.1	129	61	56	45	88	11	3.98	1.37	6.2	13	1	0.16	-1.01	-1.85	-1.68	0.48	-0.84
28	440	-0.97	Richards, Garrett		LAA	SP/RP	28		161.7	167	81	74	56	113	16	4.14	1.38	6.3	15	0	0.71	-1.83	-2.52	-2.03	0.79	-0.92
Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	WHIP	K/9	QS	NS+H	IPV	ERAV	WHIPV	K/9V	QSV	NS+HV
		-0.30	Avg Stats/Total Values				585		1,575.5	1,447	675	621	503	1,428	146	3.55	1.24	8.2	120	137	-0.94	2.20	-2.56	-0.94	0.45	0.00

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mbuser 3/21/2014 12:16 AM

Interesting combination of stats there. (GIDP seems like an odd choice, though, considering it's an "extra" offensive cat.) I'm also in a roto league that moved to using holds (as a separate category) and we're pretty happy with the results.

Our league uses: OBP, SLG, R, HR, RBI, SB .. ERA, WHIP, QS, K, SV, HLD

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oscarsf 3/25/2014 7:30 PM

mbuser - we use GIDP as essentially a "wildcard" category to infuse a little luck into a weekly series. The stat also brings the value of hitters down to the point where starting pitchers are equal to the best hitters. I'm with you on QS as well. I can't understand using W as a measurement for starting pitchers. It's almost as random as GIDP.

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