Cano Trade..??

Cgruwell05  5/21/2015 9:40 AM

How do you guys value Cano? Im in a 4 player keeper league and am considering trading Cano. What are your guys thoughts of me giving Cano for Dozier, Melacon, and Anibal Snachez? Thoughts please...

12 Teams | 10 Hitters Per Team [4 Active = HR RBI R OPS, 1 Punted = SB] | 10 Pitchers Per Team [5 Active = W SV ERA WHIP SO]

Round	Rank	TRank	PuntV	LeagV	Punt+	Name	Inj	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	OPS	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	OPSV
2	18	14	1.04	0.65	+0.39	David Ortiz		BOS	1B	104		416	71	110	77	61	84	0.263	23	0	0.837	1.13	1.39	-0.91	1.00	0.64
4	45	29	0.46	0.30	+0.16	Matt Holliday		STL	OF	112	5/21/2015 1:08 AM Matt Holliday went 3-for-4 with a run scored and one RBI in the Cardinals 9-0 win over the Mets on Wednesday.	431	70	124	71	66	82	0.288	13	5	0.829	-0.45	0.88	-0.36	0.90	0.53
5	54	35	0.35	0.11	+0.23	Adrian Beltre		TEX	3B	110		439	57	139	70	40	60	0.316	16	1	0.855	0.06	0.86	-0.82	-0.50	0.97
6	62	38	0.29	0.14	+0.16	Chris Carter		HOU	1B/OF	109	5/20/2015 6:06 PM Chris Carter went 1-for-3 with two RBI and a walk against the A’s on Wednesday.	409	60	89	62	53	157	0.217	26	4	0.762	1.69	0.14	-0.48	-0.13	-0.52
6	65	39	0.25	0.02	+0.23	Evan Gattis		HOU	C	104	5/20/2015 6:04 PM Evan Gattis went 1-for-3 with a home run, two RBI, a run scored and a walk during the Astros’ 6-1 win over the A’s on Wednesday.	405	55	100	61	21	101	0.247	26	0	0.787	1.77	0.05	-0.91	-0.68	-0.13
6	68	41	0.22	0.12	+0.10	Robinson Cano		SEA	2B	117		478	63	147	74	36	68	0.306	12	6	0.810	-0.65	1.16	-0.29	0.13	0.24
7	76	43	0.15	0.01	+0.14	Torii Hunter		MIN	OF	110	5/20/2015 10:17 PM Torii Hunter went 3-for-5 with a double, one walk and three RBI against the Pirates on Wednesday.	470	68	138	66	23	89	0.295	14	4	0.781	-0.26	0.50	-0.54	0.61	-0.26
8	91	46	0.06	-0.05	+0.11	Kole Calhoun		LAA	OF	112		463	68	127	63	39	99	0.275	15	4	0.769	-0.14	0.20	-0.51	0.67	-0.47
11	130	60	-0.18	-0.08	-0.10	Anthony Rendon	Injured - sprained left MCL - is on the 15-day disabled list Projected Return 6/1/2015	WAS	2B/3B	103	5/20/2015 3:30 PM Anthony Rendon (oblique) took grounders on the field Wednesday and did some light swinging in the cage.	435	70	121	51	39	76	0.278	13	12	0.782	-0.52	-0.82	0.30	0.87	-0.23
27	321	104	-0.74	-0.67	-0.07	Curtis Granderson		NYM	OF	103		403	64	93	35	57	109	0.230	16	5	0.728	-0.01	-2.14	-0.40	0.21	-1.03
64	757	222	-2.05	-1.73	-0.32	Brad Miller		SEA	2B/SS	92		286	30	70	26	25	62	0.245	9	4	0.717	-1.16	-2.92	-0.45	-3.29	-0.85
64	758	223	-2.06	-1.62	-0.44	Carlos Correa	Minor Leagues Projected Return 6/1/2015	HOU	SS	96		309	30	82	29	27	76	0.266	6	10	0.737	-1.58	-2.65	0.14	-3.33	-0.69
Round	Rank	TRank	PuntV	LeagV	Punt+	Name	Inj	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	OPS	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	OPSV
			-2.06	-2.69	+0.63	Avg Stats/Total Values				1271		4,944	706	1,340	684	487	1,062	0.271	187	55	0.787	-0.12	-3.33	-5.22	-3.54	-1.26
			0.69	-0.44	+1.13	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				1072		4,231	613	1,164	620	403	877	0.275	165	40	0.796	1.46	1.45	-4.96	-0.42	0.27

Round	Rank	TRank	PuntV	LeagV	Punt+	Name	Inj	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV
4	38	12	0.53	0.53	0.00	Jordan Zimmermann		WAS	SP	25	5/20/2015 9:19 PM Jordan Zimmermann allowed two earned runs on five hits with one walk while striking out six in seven strong innings on Wednesday night against the Yankees.	160.0	155	59	54	29	137	12	3.03	12	0	1.15	1.43	-0.62	0.84	0.24	0.77
5	59	23	0.31	0.31	0.00	Koji Uehara		BOS	RP	49		49.0	30	15	14	6	61	5	2.57	3	23	0.73	-1.27	1.50	0.67	1.62	-0.98
7	74	33	0.16	0.16	0.00	Sean Doolittle	Injured - left shoulder surgery - is on the 15-day disabled list Projected Return 5/25/2015	OAK	RP	49	5/20/2015 4:05 PM Sean Doolittle (shoulder) will make his next rehab appearance Friday with Triple-A Nashville.	48.5	36	14	13	9	56	3	2.38	3	23	0.92	-1.33	1.48	0.84	0.90	-1.10
7	84	40	0.09	0.09	0.00	Gio Gonzalez		WAS	SP	24		147.2	139	57	52	52	147	10	3.19	11	0	1.30	1.17	-0.62	0.36	-1.47	1.01
8	87	43	0.08	0.08	0.00	Jose Quintana		CHW	SP	26		160.0	169	60	55	39	142	11	3.10	11	0	1.30	1.08	-0.62	0.64	-1.60	0.90
9	104	51	-0.03	-0.03	0.00	Ken Giles		PHI	RP	53		53.1	38	13	12	17	68	2	2.07	5	4	1.03	-0.83	-0.29	1.21	0.54	-0.81
10	116	63	-0.12	-0.12	0.00	Francisco Liriano		PIT	SP	24		141.1	112	61	56	66	145	11	3.60	10	0	1.26	0.79	-0.62	-0.72	-1.00	0.95
11	121	66	-0.14	-0.14	0.00	Dan Haren		MIA	SP	24		142.3	133	66	61	27	116	18	3.84	9	0	1.13	0.54	-0.62	-1.35	0.45	0.28
12	142	78	-0.22	-0.22	0.00	Mat Latos	Day to Day - Probable - bruised left shin - is probable for Thursday's scheduled start against Arizona	MIA	SP	23		144.0	144	57	53	43	115	8	3.28	9	0	1.30	0.63	-0.62	0.10	-1.47	0.28
14	159	88	-0.29	-0.29	0.00	Kyle Hendricks		CHC	SP	29		119.8	117	52	48	27	82	10	3.62	9	0	1.20	0.57	-0.62	-0.66	-0.27	-0.49
14	164	92	-0.33	-0.33	0.00	Mike Fiers		MIL	SP	24		137.5	135	62	57	48	145	17	3.75	10	0	1.33	0.73	-0.62	-1.08	-1.64	0.97
16	182	103	-0.42	-0.42	0.00	Brett Anderson		LAD	SP	25	5/21/2015 5:02 AM Brett Anderson allowed three runs on six hits and three walks while striking out seven batters over 6 1/3 innings against the Giants on Wednesday.	114.5	118	48	44	31	88	8	3.45	8	0	1.30	0.32	-0.62	-0.27	-1.18	-0.34
19	225	135	-0.55	-0.55	0.00	Noah Syndergaard		NYM	SP	18		94.2	86	44	40	32	84	10	3.85	7	0	1.25	-0.19	-0.62	-0.91	-0.61	-0.44
Round	Rank	TRank	PuntV	LeagV	Punt+	Name	Inj	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV
			-0.94	-0.94	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values				394		1,511.2	1,411	608	559	425	1,386	127	3.33	105	50	1.22	3.64	-3.54	-0.33	-5.49	1.01
			0.36	0.36	0.00	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				327		1,165.0	1,073	454	418	314	1,068	91	3.23	81	50	1.19	2.79	-1.67	1.94	-2.06	0.82

jyang61107  5/21/2015 9:47 AM

Playing keepers are a little tricky...You want to keep your best bats and only hold the Pitchers that will be there for the long hold example are Kershaw and Felix...

I will keep Cano as he is signed on to a long term contract and seem like SEA is running things through him.

I'm not sure how long Melacon and Sanchez will stay and Dozier seem like a good option but Cano is better.

Your team looks prime to rebuild before the ship tanks...why not trade down for top prospects that have high +60 FV and get rid of your veterans.

I will consider moving Ortiz, Beltre, Cano, Uehara since those are your players that you might be able to trade easily.

What are your thoughts?

Cgruwell05  5/21/2015 10:51 AM

The only reason I thought of this trade is because Dozier is ranked so much higher in Projections that Cano. Just thought the othere 2 guys were an added bones.

BTW, what is FV, when you say "+60 FV"?

ken_admin  5/21/2015 12:47 PM

That looks reasonable, and your settings must be a little different than defaults since those two are right next to each other in the default projections. Cano's power has settled at a lower level in SEA (which makes sense), and his value is mostly from average which hasn't been great this year.  Plus Dozier was mid-20's last year in the ranks and is right there again this season so there is a small track record.  The addition of Melancon and Sanchez help justify the deal too.

jyang61107  5/21/2015 1:28 PM

Remember he will have to drop 2 players...anything we can squeeze out of that than just those 3? Even with those 3 players he doesn't look to win next year either or even the next? Wouldn't a rebuild be more ideal based on his team.  I mean the deal is not bad...But don't settle now and try looking for better offers.  Keeper league is long term.  If it was for this year and only season I would take that deal right away.

Cgruwell05  5/22/2015 9:21 AM

Yeah, I failed to mention that our league has OPS in stead of AVG, with the remaining settings being the same. I will keep looking for better trades...Thanks for the help!

What do you guys mean by "FV"? I am still confused