do you make this trade?

holty85  6/20/2015 1:07 PM

dynasty(keep everyone no restrictions) 10 man 6X6 OBP/QS as the extra cats H2H...we can have up to 5 minor leaguers...I currently have Corey Seager, Julio Urias, Steven Matz, Manny Margot, & Julio Urias....would you trade Seager & Urias for Springer? I know 2 years from now I will end up losing this trade as both Seager & Urias are blue chippers 65 type prospects....I'm so torn...

10 Teams | 14 Hitters Per Team $130 Per Team [4 Active = H SB R OBP, 2 Punted = HR RBI] | 16 Pitchers Per Team $70 Per Team [5 Active = W ERA WHIP SO QS, 1 Punted = SV]

Round	Rank	TRank	PuntV	LeagV	Punt+	Name	Inj	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	OBP	HV	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	OBPV
2	17	7	1.26	0.98	+0.28	Joey Votto		CIN	1B	91		354	59	103	47	73	80	0.291	14	7	0.414	0.78	0.64	0.22	-0.08	1.48	2.85
3	25	14	1.04	0.27	+0.77	Denard Span		WAS	OF	80		367	54	114	33	28	37	0.310	4	15	0.359	1.62	-1.31	-1.21	1.01	0.82	0.73
4	35	16	0.87	0.36	+0.51	Joe Panik		SF	2B	89		388	59	118	43	33	49	0.304	5	2	0.360	1.93	-1.07	-0.23	-0.69	1.46	0.78
5	41	19	0.80	0.26	+0.54	Dexter Fowler		CHC	OF	87		376	60	95	34	53	96	0.252	8	16	0.348	0.13	-0.50	-1.12	1.21	1.60	0.26
5	46	23	0.75	-0.18	+0.92	Ben Revere		PHI	OF	80		364	43	111	25	13	35	0.304	1	28	0.330	1.37	-1.98	-2.07	2.74	-0.64	-0.49
7	63	31	0.51	0.41	+0.09	Joc Pederson		LAD	DH/OF	84		329	60	81	37	68	117	0.247	18	6	0.380	-0.93	1.25	-0.80	-0.09	1.64	1.42
11	107	54	0.13	-0.06	+0.19	Mookie Betts		BOS	2B/OF	84	6/20/2015 3:47 AM Mookie Betts went 4-for-5 with one RBI and one stolen base in the Red Sox 7-3 win over the Royals on Friday.	335	45	93	41	30	47	0.279	8	14	0.340	0.02	-0.50	-0.40	0.89	-0.31	-0.07
13	126	65	0.00	0.00	+0.00	Mike Moustakas		KC	3B	88		382	53	104	44	24	59	0.271	12	3	0.320	0.83	0.09	-0.09	-0.62	0.72	-0.91
13	127	66	0.00	-0.24	+0.24	Kolten Wong		STL	2B	85	6/19/2015 11:53 PM Kolten Wong went 1-for-5 with a two-run home run on Friday night against the Phillies.	376	55	95	32	24	64	0.253	11	11	0.302	0.18	-0.10	-1.36	0.48	0.99	-1.65
14	136	69	-0.04	-0.20	+0.16	Nick Markakis		ATL	OF	89		351	43	99	46	43	49	0.281	5	1	0.362	0.44	-1.12	0.09	-0.83	-0.56	0.78
20	197	91	-0.36	-0.34	-0.02	Alex Gordon		KC	OF	88		318	41	84	39	38	72	0.263	11	5	0.353	-0.74	-0.01	-0.62	-0.30	-0.81	0.41
26	251	111	-0.59	-0.61	+0.02	Matt Holliday	Injured - strained right quadriceps - is on the 15-day disabled list Projected Return 7/20/2015	STL	OF	63		243	38	69	40	38	49	0.284	7	3	0.390	-1.86	-0.71	-0.57	-0.59	-1.23	1.32
39	389	150	-0.98	-0.67	-0.30	Stephen Vogt		OAK	C	80	6/20/2015 4:38 AM Stephen Vogt went 2-for-4 connecting on his 13th home run of the season with three RBI against the Angels on Friday.	294	37	77	40	31	58	0.263	13	0	0.330	-1.23	0.41	-0.54	-0.91	-1.37	-0.39
41	403	153	-1.00	-0.76	-0.24	Steven Souza		TB	DH/OF	82	6/20/2015 1:32 AM Steven Souza Jr. went 2-for-4 with a solo homer and two runs scored during Friday’s 4-1 win against the indians.	285	37	62	35	36	107	0.219	14	11	0.315	-2.40	0.51	-1.08	0.52	-1.28	-0.84
61	609	176	-1.29	-1.27	-0.02	Addison Russell		CHC	2B/SS	87		287	27	73	27	22	102	0.254	8	5	0.317	-1.58	-0.59	-1.86	-0.26	-2.55	-0.78
105	1048	461	-3.28	-3.22	-0.06	Corey Seager		LAD	SS	24		40	2	11	3	3	11	0.266	1	1	0.312	-6.43	-1.83	-4.40	-0.86	-5.72	-0.11
Round	Rank	TRank	PuntV	LeagV	Punt+	Name	Inj	Team	Pos	g	News	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	BA	HR	SB	OBP	HV	HRV	RBIV	SBV	RV	OBPV
			-2.04	-5.17	+3.13	Avg Stats/Total Values				1282		5,089	715	1,388	567	556	1,030	0.273	141	126	0.348	-7.87	-6.82	-16.03	1.62	-5.76	3.85
			2.61	-0.83	+3.44	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				1088		4,447	634	1,232	490	479	841	0.277	114	109	0.351	1.69	-5.50	-9.93	2.26	2.06	4.42

Round	Rank	TRank	PuntV	LeagV	Punt+	Name	Inj	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	QS	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV	QSV
3	27	13	1.01	0.76	+0.25	Gerrit Cole		PIT	SP	19		117.4	103	43	39	34	113	8	3.02	8	0	1.16	13	1.19	-0.48	1.28	0.57	1.03	1.01
3	28	14	0.99	0.74	+0.25	Dallas Keuchel		HOU	SP	19		131.7	113	50	46	32	100	7	3.15	8	0	1.10	13	1.09	-0.48	1.09	1.32	0.57	0.88
3	30	15	0.95	0.72	+0.24	Chris Archer		TB	SP	19		116.8	94	44	40	36	116	8	3.10	7	0	1.12	13	0.65	-0.48	1.09	0.98	1.15	0.91
4	31	16	0.93	0.70	+0.24	Sonny Gray		OAK	SP	18	6/20/2015 4:36 AM Sonny Gray surrendered six runs (five earned) on five hits and three walks while striking out two batters over six innings against the Angels on Friday.	124.7	99	48	44	37	108	8	3.20	7	0	1.08	12	0.65	-0.48	0.91	1.40	0.87	0.84
4	32	17	0.90	0.67	+0.23	Jordan Zimmermann		WAS	SP	20		120.3	123	44	41	22	95	8	3.03	9	0	1.20	14	1.53	-0.48	1.28	0.18	0.39	1.12
5	50	25	0.69	0.50	+0.20	Michael Pineda		NYY	SP	17		101.7	91	40	37	20	98	10	3.26	7	0	1.09	11	0.65	-0.48	0.62	1.08	0.49	0.61
7	67	34	0.48	0.32	+0.16	Tyson Ross		SD	SP	19		112.0	103	44	40	50	116	6	3.22	8	0	1.36	13	0.80	-0.48	0.76	-1.24	1.13	0.96
13	121	59	0.04	-0.04	+0.09	Collin McHugh		HOU	SP	19		111.3	112	53	49	30	99	14	3.98	7	0	1.27	11	0.55	-0.48	-0.94	-0.41	0.55	0.47
13	129	63	-0.01	-0.09	+0.08	Eduardo Rodriguez		BOS	SP	17	6/20/2015 3:47 AM Eduardo Rodriguez allowed one earned run on six hits while walking one and striking out five over 6.1 innings in the Red Sox 7-3 win over the Royals on Friday.	99.5	92	45	41	36	85	8	3.71	7	0	1.29	10	0.36	-0.48	-0.30	-0.53	0.05	0.37
14	140	71	-0.07	-0.14	+0.07	Ervin Santana	Injured - - Projected Return 7/5/2015	MIN	SP	16		105.0	102	48	44	30	87	10	3.75	6	0	1.26	10	-0.03	-0.48	-0.40	-0.30	0.09	0.29
15	150	79	-0.13	-0.19	+0.06	Chase Anderson		ARI	SP	20		92.2	89	42	38	26	75	9	3.72	6	0	1.25	9	0.07	-0.48	-0.30	-0.21	-0.30	0.08
16	153	81	-0.14	-0.19	+0.06	Doug Fister		WAS	SP	18		115.4	126	54	50	23	74	12	3.86	7	0	1.29	10	0.60	-0.48	-0.70	-0.66	-0.35	0.43
18	171	89	-0.23	-0.04	-0.19	Dellin Betances		NYY	RP	38		38.4	17	8	8	13	58	2	1.76	3	10	0.76	0	-1.35	0.90	1.40	1.43	-0.92	-1.70
22	219	118	-0.46	-0.46	+0.00	Carlos Rodon		CHW	SP/RP	19		96.4	90	47	43	51	95	8	4.00	6	0	1.46	9	-0.18	-0.48	-0.85	-1.87	0.39	0.21
25	242	135	-0.55	-0.54	-0.01	Steven Matz	Minor Leagues Projected Return 6/25/2015	NYM	SP	9		51.4	43	22	20	19	47	4	3.48	4	0	1.20	6	-1.16	-0.48	0.08	0.10	-1.29	-0.48
42	415	259	-1.02	-0.93	-0.09	Will Harris		HOU	RP	23		20.9	14	8	7	6	23	2	3.01	2	0	0.96	0	-1.94	-0.48	0.23	0.44	-2.15	-1.70
56	557	389	-1.23	-1.10	-0.12	J.J. Hoover		CIN	RP	29		31.7	22	17	16	16	31	4	4.46	2	0	1.19	0	-2.08	-0.48	-0.57	0.08	-1.86	-1.70
Round	Rank	TRank	PuntV	LeagV	Punt+	Name	Inj	Team	Pos	g	News	IP	H	RA	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA	W	SV	WHIP	QS	WV	SVV	ERAV	WHIPV	SOV	QSV
			2.17	0.67	+1.50	Avg Stats/Total Values				338		1,586.8	1,431	654	602	480	1,421	127	3.41	103	10	1.20	154	1.41	-6.82	4.66	2.35	-0.18	2.58

callahan  6/20/2015 5:43 PM

I didn't understand your Max Scherzer trade, so you got me.  Apprarently, your future is worth more than today.

If it was me, I would've said FU HELL NO to the Scherzer trade and yes to the Springer for Wong trade.  This latest deal depends on how you project Seager and Urias and we haven't even seen them yet, so no.

holty85  6/20/2015 9:34 PM

Moving scherzer made all the sense in the world considering I have cole, gray, keuchel, and archer...I couldn't end up doing the wong springer deal because the owner pulled it.

callahan  6/20/2015 10:13 PM

All right.  I'm assuming you're still trying to make the POs for this season.  It seems with your lack of hitters that the only pickups you can make are the Seagers and Uriases.  Going this route, you have to hope one or two of them hit the jackpot like a Carlos Correa or Joey Gallo.  HR doesn't help you, but I mean prospects who make an immediate impact.  Springer would help you this season, so he would be worth acquiring.  Leave his offer out there and give him Wong for Springer to see if he'll bite.  Or a Urias and Rondon for Springer.

holty85  6/20/2015 10:24 PM

Right, I needed offense and was stacked at pitching...thus I moved scherzer and got back joc and wong...I'm currently in second place and am tied with the first place team this week...I have no doubts my team can compete, but I'm looking to make one more splash on offense...wong for springer is off the table as springer owner pulled that offer...so my only chance to get him is to deal 2 blue chip prospects...which I'm on the fence about since this is a long term dynasty...which is why I was looking for the communities opinion here to push me one way or the other on the deal

ken_admin  6/21/2015 6:34 AM

Springer is offering speed which you likely won't get from Seager if that makes a difference for your long-term plans. The speed (along with his power) gives Springer the higher ceiling. If you believe Seager is the better long-term player, I would not do the deal.  If you like Springer better, I think it's worth doing even giving up the potential of Urias since it'll give you a better shot to win this and next season (and possibly longer).